Safety plans or anything to help us
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We had a very negative experience from SS and despite actively putting as much into place as possible, they don't take anything into account we've done. I have read about safety plans and understand this is what they could ask for. I have tried to create one but I'm struggling despite trying to use templates. I would like to put all my effort into getting it right from the start and wondered if anyone would be willing to share how they had their plans drawn up please.
It depends on different factors like your children's ages, genders (I.E if the offender was looking at images / communicating with females but the child/ren are male) and whether the offender is living with them / how much contact they have / you are wanting them to have.
We wrote up a safety plan for our unborn child with the goal for my OH (the father) to live in the home, but they couldn't care less, they don't want to read it until risk assessments take place.
We wrote up a safety plan for our unborn child with the goal for my OH (the father) to live in the home, but they couldn't care less, they don't want to read it until risk assessments take place.
Child is unborn but not long left at all. They won't do assessments until after birth. Hence us trying to everything we can to keep the family together. I thought the more I can be doing in between appointments the better .
Thank you for your reply
Thank you for your reply
Hi,
Is your partner currently living with you? It's odd that ss have said they won't do any assessments until after the baby is born. Usually they would want things in place before the birth. My safety plan was just bullet points, it helped to keep it simple for all parties. My partner doesn't live with us so our daughter is protected by no unsupervised contact at the moment. I had two meetings with my sw before the case was closed in the October and I had our daughter in February the following year. I do have older children from a previous relationship and I think that their lived experience of my parenting was a massive factor in deciding that I was protective and would make the best decisions for my children.
We decided that no personal care was to be done by my partner (this was a choice as sw didn't put any restrictions on this), supervised contact and a basic plan for as she grows (what work we will do with her like pants, books to read together, house rules like knocking before entering bedrooms, moving around the house clothed appropriately etc).
At newborn stage supervising contact mitigates most risks. Something that is worth noting is how tired you're likely to be so having someone else who can supervise while you rest or times that your partner doesn't have access to the house so you can catch up on sleep might be useful to put into your plan. Your plan doesn't have to be pages and pages of information about every possible situation, it needs to be child focused and adaptable for you as a family xxx
Is your partner currently living with you? It's odd that ss have said they won't do any assessments until after the baby is born. Usually they would want things in place before the birth. My safety plan was just bullet points, it helped to keep it simple for all parties. My partner doesn't live with us so our daughter is protected by no unsupervised contact at the moment. I had two meetings with my sw before the case was closed in the October and I had our daughter in February the following year. I do have older children from a previous relationship and I think that their lived experience of my parenting was a massive factor in deciding that I was protective and would make the best decisions for my children.
We decided that no personal care was to be done by my partner (this was a choice as sw didn't put any restrictions on this), supervised contact and a basic plan for as she grows (what work we will do with her like pants, books to read together, house rules like knocking before entering bedrooms, moving around the house clothed appropriately etc).
At newborn stage supervising contact mitigates most risks. Something that is worth noting is how tired you're likely to be so having someone else who can supervise while you rest or times that your partner doesn't have access to the house so you can catch up on sleep might be useful to put into your plan. Your plan doesn't have to be pages and pages of information about every possible situation, it needs to be child focused and adaptable for you as a family xxx
I agree, I'm surprised they're not wanting to do assessments before. They won't agree to our safety plan until we've had risk assessments. They've still not decided on a birth plan either I.E if my OH can be there (despite him being on the labour ward with me the whole time I had a late miscarriage).
We're on a child protection plan now for sexual risk although some of the things they've added to it are irrelevant to mitigating sexual risk so I'm going to start challenging them a bit more. They're trying to say risk assessments will only be funded at preproceedings and they're wanting to go down this route despite us being fully co-operative. We wrote a safety plan, I'll send you a PM x
We're on a child protection plan now for sexual risk although some of the things they've added to it are irrelevant to mitigating sexual risk so I'm going to start challenging them a bit more. They're trying to say risk assessments will only be funded at preproceedings and they're wanting to go down this route despite us being fully co-operative. We wrote a safety plan, I'll send you a PM x
Ahh it won't let me, let me know if you decide to change your messaging preferences and I'll send it across. I'd rather not post publicly as there's personal information in it x
Hi,
Unfortunately they can only do proper risk assessments like lucy faithful etc during pre proceedings this doesn't always necessarily mean it will then go to court. As if those assessments are positive it won't need to.
My partner was allowed on the ward when I gave birth as long as he didn't leave the room on his own. We were put in our own room luckily.
Unfortunately in my case it did and I unfortunately lost our child for 18 months to care system.
Social refused our saftey plan and so did the guardian and refused to work with us to make one that did work.
During proceedings I came up with more to put in the saftey plan with my Stopso therapist.
My OH is however allowed unsupervised access as long as he does no personal care (our daughter is 2 so still in nappies)
Our saftey plan from day 1 included:
No unsupervised access (although that's changed now)
No going in her bedroom.
I would always attend to her at bedtime.
No personal care.
If we go away we will have 2 rooms etc
I will teach our daughter about pants etc
We lived separately for nearly 2 years but he's slowly moving back in over a year and our daughter is home and has been for 6 months.
Unfortunately they can only do proper risk assessments like lucy faithful etc during pre proceedings this doesn't always necessarily mean it will then go to court. As if those assessments are positive it won't need to.
My partner was allowed on the ward when I gave birth as long as he didn't leave the room on his own. We were put in our own room luckily.
Unfortunately in my case it did and I unfortunately lost our child for 18 months to care system.
Social refused our saftey plan and so did the guardian and refused to work with us to make one that did work.
During proceedings I came up with more to put in the saftey plan with my Stopso therapist.
My OH is however allowed unsupervised access as long as he does no personal care (our daughter is 2 so still in nappies)
Our saftey plan from day 1 included:
No unsupervised access (although that's changed now)
No going in her bedroom.
I would always attend to her at bedtime.
No personal care.
If we go away we will have 2 rooms etc
I will teach our daughter about pants etc
We lived separately for nearly 2 years but he's slowly moving back in over a year and our daughter is home and has been for 6 months.
We have lived with the pending investigation for 3 years and didn't take it lightly to continue to try and rebuild and have a baby together with IVF after our discussions over what they did etc.
I am wanting to continue to us being a family unit once the baby is born. But all i am getting is that I'm an unsuitable contact and so is mother in law who is willing to move into our home full time to support us being able to stay together.
This is why I'm trying to prove as much as i can that i am a suitable contact for my own child by doing online courses, or making safety plans etc despite having gone through x amount over the last 3 years.
I am not sure how to change my settings for messages?
Thank you
I am wanting to continue to us being a family unit once the baby is born. But all i am getting is that I'm an unsuitable contact and so is mother in law who is willing to move into our home full time to support us being able to stay together.
This is why I'm trying to prove as much as i can that i am a suitable contact for my own child by doing online courses, or making safety plans etc despite having gone through x amount over the last 3 years.
I am not sure how to change my settings for messages?
Thank you
There's been lots of people that have had risk assessments that haven't needed to be escalated to pre-proceedings including through LFF. I've read into the Children Act too which corroborates this.
I've been told we're going to Preproceedings today to have risk assessments. We're being given 'the letter' on Monday and expected to find a solicitor to respresent us for the pre-proceedings meeting on Wednesday. This isn't possible as my OH is in work training he can't postpone. I also think it's unbelievably short notice to try and find a solicitor and speak to them about our case in 2 days all just before Christmas and when me and my OH work full time. Feels like we're being put at an unfair disadvantage right from the offset.
I've been told we're going to Preproceedings today to have risk assessments. We're being given 'the letter' on Monday and expected to find a solicitor to respresent us for the pre-proceedings meeting on Wednesday. This isn't possible as my OH is in work training he can't postpone. I also think it's unbelievably short notice to try and find a solicitor and speak to them about our case in 2 days all just before Christmas and when me and my OH work full time. Feels like we're being put at an unfair disadvantage right from the offset.