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Is it true do forensics not check devices in order they receive them?

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Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Tue December 31, 2024 10:44pmReport post

I've seen various posts and wondered is it true that if police think your person's devices are less likely to show anything they get pushed back for checking and the more serious cases jump the queue.

Edited Wed January 1, 2025 8:51am

Sad&Scared

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 8:53amReport post

My impression (just from this forum & the specialist solicitor taking the case I'm unfortunately involved with) is "Yes in theory, but the system is so clogged up, inconsistent & chaotic that you can't read too much into anything...."

Sad&Scared

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 8:54amReport post

Should add that it's 15 months & counting in 'our' case

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 9:18amReport post

It just worries me because our knock is exactly 5 months since and we got told a year for devices checking. Last talk to OIC when bail extended he was going to try get forensic done sooner. My son was 15 when the incident 'whatever it is because we have no idea other than IP address and his email linked' and police seemed to talk of 'one image'. He was 16 when the knock happened. I worry this goes on to him being 18 and then it being treated as him being an adult. Would they take into account whatever it is being when he was a child.

Edited Wed January 1, 2025 9:19am

LittleRobin3

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 9:34amReport post

Doubtful. Our case is second time around so the Police knew there would be stuff on my ex's phone but it still took 2 years or more for the phone to be analysed. I've also seen a few cases where the end result was NFA but it's taken just as long.

LittleRobin3

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 9:37amReport post

Your son will be charged as a 15 year old regardless of when it goes to court (if it does). X

Sparrowfall

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 11:31amReport post

My person had a consultation with a solicitor who specialises in these types of cases a few weeks ago.

He said that some device checks do move up the queue due to priority which, in turn, moves others down. He didn't speak about this too in detail but suggested my person's would probably be low priority as he'd been released under investigation rather than bail and he doesn't have children or work with them.



It doesn't sound like they prioritise based on likelihood of finding something but I'm not sure.

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 12:05pmReport post

Despite my solicitor requesting it be under investigation they did it as bail. Do feel he's easy target for them. When husband last spoke to oic he's mentioned my son had not been going to gym. The oic said is that because he doesn't want to get in anymore trouble. To which husband replied no its because he's scared. It was like ioc was saying my son was guilty before any investigation. The officer changed his tune when husband said he was going to put complaint in because from start it's like police didn't have clue what they were doing.

Problem is my son is an anxious child who does everything by book. Reports anything that is wrong. I feel it's school related and snapchat because he reported items on there and one did violate. I've now every Internet security and parental controls going. That doesn't bother him or his younger brother. His day consists of playing fortnite, fifa and VR headset and going to college. We drop him at college, we pick him up. He's never gone out. Only difference he now won't sleep in his bed and on edge every time a knock at door. He breaks down when we tried to talk about it saying he's no idea what it is. We did worry is he scared of someone from school. I just pray for an end to this and it doesn't impact his A levels.

IceyB

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 1:35pmReport post

We were told that cases were either low, medium or high risk and as more high risk come in, medium and low risk are pushed back. My son was low risk (ended with a caution and 2 years SOR) and his took almost 2 years

Inturmoil1974

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 6:13pmReport post

We had the knock on the Thursday devices checked charged 24 hours later on the Friday 5 images we are in Scotland

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 6:24pmReport post

Scotland obviously a lot quicker than England. It's ridiculous how long it takes. I know I've read some forces have their own onsite equipment to check. We are 5 months in and waiting.

LosingIt

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 7:13pmReport post

I think it's less to do with what will be found on the devices and more the risk posed of further offences and nature of offences (e.g. contact offences more serious than images). If you work in a regulated profession (or your partner does) you will be prioritised for safeguarding reasons.

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Wed January 1, 2025 7:57pmReport post

I work in regulated profession which police are aware of but the knock was for my 16yr old son. We got told a year for forensics.

HoneyBee1325

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Posted Fri January 3, 2025 9:38pmReport post

We were told 6-9 months for devices to be looked at, we got things like SD cards and switches back after less than 8 weeks and we have now just had both my OHs phone & old phone & my 2 laptops cleared by the OIC & being collected Tuesday (our knock was July 20th).



we have 1 last device that has been sent to DFU (digital forensics unit) and that's apparently going to take "a few months". OIC said it "refused to download" so I assume he's been on a course for using some kind of basic downloading software that he can review. So I guess it's down to the team & officer who are running the case.



hopefully yours don't take too much longer. I think if they were to have found something on the basic downloading software it then goes to the specialist which could be why so many take many months to come back. Xx

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Sun January 5, 2025 9:45amReport post

We got told 12 months and from start the were being sent to forensics to be checked. They said they would sit in a locker until they were done. So I read into that they were doing no initial checks that I've read some do. Presume all down to staffing.

They only took his phone, xbox and an old tablet he watched YouTube on. The watching of YouTube concerns me because he would start watching a video at night and fall asleep so it would continue playing follow on videos until it run out of power. Having said that I still think it's all down to school and snapchat.

I keep thinking should I contact OIC for an update because they said they would try get them checked quicker. His 2nd bail ends 23rd January and apparently this needs agreeing higher up to extend but solicitor said they would sort it. Even though we believe he's innocent I had the solicitor because I didn't have a clue what I was dealing with. So glad I did because OIC have been rubbish answering my questions. Especially like with bail when we didn't understand how it might impact his time at college.

LosingIt

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Posted Mon January 6, 2025 12:16pmReport post

You're right they don't all do initial checks but they do all "triage" to assign priority to devices in the backlog but this could be done based on just the evidence they already have. Did they tell you on the day of the arrest they were going to forensics? They sometimes do the triage while your person is in custody. And I don't think they always tell you the full truth about what they already have done.

Ajustcopingparent

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Posted Mon January 6, 2025 1:52pmReport post

It's all a bit if a blur now. I just remember them saying they will sit in a locker and take about 12 months.

When bail was first extended they said they were going to try get them done quicker so that was end of October but heard nothing yet.

I'd thought about getting in touch with OIC but part of me is scared and doesn't want to.

Lonelyaround5555

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Posted Mon January 6, 2025 6:24pmReport post

My oh 6month bail ends Monday. Hoping to get someone sort of answers this week but I just expect another 3 months of not knowing.

Crushed

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Posted Tue January 7, 2025 7:35amReport post

I wonder as my son isn't on bail if the devices will take longer...as there are no time constraints like when on bail...

We were told 6 months and it has been just over that.

The officers did a search of his phone at the house and found what they were looking for apparently.

Edited Tue January 7, 2025 7:36am