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Does anyone know the statistics re first time internet offenders versus first time other types of offenders? Maybe someone at LFF could tell me?
I'm sat here reading stories from years back on this forum, and new ones, and my heart is breaking for all the partners, wives, mothers, children, and those committing these offences (and yes of course the victims themselves) whose lives are being shattered day after day.
I've read that in England and Wales in 2021 there were 850 arrests a months, but I've also seen it's even more now. So I'm interested in knowing how the figures compare to other types of first time offending. Because to me this IS a pandemic, especially if partners, wives, mothers, children are somehow factored in too. They should be counted because as we all know this type of crime is very different to others and the secrecy, shame, fear, worry, judgement isolation we feel is destroying lives. But as long as it remains in the shadows it can't be properly dealt with.
I am, by nature, an activist, I write letters, I join campaigns- but with this I'm feeling silenced, again because of the nature of the crime. I want to do something but there's nothing I can do to help bring about change because of society's view of the crime.
I was pointed to The Naked Truth Project by someone on here. They're very good and part of their work is calling out pornography for the damage it is doing which is great but far more needs to be done on this. I'm no professional but I'd say most if not all viewers of iioc end up there because they've looked at pornography. The conversation needs to change. Pornography is no longer in a magazine where the owners/ producers are accountable, but rather it's potentially in everyone's pocket. Why as a society do we think that's ok? As long as society says oh it's just men being men and it's harmless then sons, dads, husbands will continue to end up doing the worst kind of viewing.
I'm sat here reading stories from years back on this forum, and new ones, and my heart is breaking for all the partners, wives, mothers, children, and those committing these offences (and yes of course the victims themselves) whose lives are being shattered day after day.
I've read that in England and Wales in 2021 there were 850 arrests a months, but I've also seen it's even more now. So I'm interested in knowing how the figures compare to other types of first time offending. Because to me this IS a pandemic, especially if partners, wives, mothers, children are somehow factored in too. They should be counted because as we all know this type of crime is very different to others and the secrecy, shame, fear, worry, judgement isolation we feel is destroying lives. But as long as it remains in the shadows it can't be properly dealt with.
I am, by nature, an activist, I write letters, I join campaigns- but with this I'm feeling silenced, again because of the nature of the crime. I want to do something but there's nothing I can do to help bring about change because of society's view of the crime.
I was pointed to The Naked Truth Project by someone on here. They're very good and part of their work is calling out pornography for the damage it is doing which is great but far more needs to be done on this. I'm no professional but I'd say most if not all viewers of iioc end up there because they've looked at pornography. The conversation needs to change. Pornography is no longer in a magazine where the owners/ producers are accountable, but rather it's potentially in everyone's pocket. Why as a society do we think that's ok? As long as society says oh it's just men being men and it's harmless then sons, dads, husbands will continue to end up doing the worst kind of viewing.
SaintJude couldn't agree more with this, in the past I've written very similar posts, sadly many members have over the years. More has to be done, as it's my belief society is actually creating, not catching sex offenders. These are men with crippling porn addictions and a whole history of of other issues - many simply require help not criminalisation and vilification. Yet here we are, afraid to put our heads above the parapet and call for change because of how society views these kinds of offences.
When we met with our specialist solicitor in December 23 he said the majority of his cases were now internet based and he said there were around 1,200 arrests a month. He also described it back then as an endemic.
I know LLF are working very hard behind the scenes and trying to have conversations in the right places, but we're stuck between politics, victims right groups (rightly so, but we're not recognised as victims) and societal stigma. There's a long way to go and someone said to me recently that society and subsequently the CJS hasn't caught up with the pace of technology.
id be very open to the idea of trying to get the message out, but just not sure how best to go about it.x
When we met with our specialist solicitor in December 23 he said the majority of his cases were now internet based and he said there were around 1,200 arrests a month. He also described it back then as an endemic.
I know LLF are working very hard behind the scenes and trying to have conversations in the right places, but we're stuck between politics, victims right groups (rightly so, but we're not recognised as victims) and societal stigma. There's a long way to go and someone said to me recently that society and subsequently the CJS hasn't caught up with the pace of technology.
id be very open to the idea of trying to get the message out, but just not sure how best to go about it.x
Hi and thanks for your reply. I agree with everything you've said and yes LFF are doing excellent work.
It's that idea though that to save the drowning people you have to look upstream before they fall in. It's the pornography that needs to be called out. That would be a start. I know there's work being done in schools but much more needs to be done and conversations need to be had, a national conversation a bit like the one around phone addiction in teens following the tv program with Emma Willis.
It's that idea though that to save the drowning people you have to look upstream before they fall in. It's the pornography that needs to be called out. That would be a start. I know there's work being done in schools but much more needs to be done and conversations need to be had, a national conversation a bit like the one around phone addiction in teens following the tv program with Emma Willis.
I have felt the same since day one of the knock, I keep saying one day I will find the strength to tell my story and the effects its had on our family, our mind has been our worst enemies, this crime is a huge umbrella yet everyone is classed the same
Porn is a huge problem. I'm afraid buy in from those in power would be almost impossible to get as those with the most power in our country are ...men. Whose view of porn has been coddled by society's acceptance of 'men being men' that viewing porn is 'unavoidable' and every man does it ... This view has been perpetuated with such strength throughout western society that men are often viewed as 'weird' or abnormal by their peers if they don't watch porn.
However man did exist before porn. And I wish there was a way to change it's accessibility but the advent of the internet and the fact those often in charge of making and distributing adult porn are men as well as those with legislative and financial power in this country it is unlikely to change.
I don't agree with the porn addict theory when it comes to viewing CSAM but I do think porn is pretty awful and has ruined mens perceptions of a loving, respectful relationship with women. Women are often faced with unrealistic expectations or feeling uncomfortable about what men now perceive as normal bedroom behaviour. I find it hard to grasp that looking at content could out weight the instinct to protect your family and loved ones and my opinion on the addict theory is a personal one, I totally understand and respect differences in opinion there.
However man did exist before porn. And I wish there was a way to change it's accessibility but the advent of the internet and the fact those often in charge of making and distributing adult porn are men as well as those with legislative and financial power in this country it is unlikely to change.
I don't agree with the porn addict theory when it comes to viewing CSAM but I do think porn is pretty awful and has ruined mens perceptions of a loving, respectful relationship with women. Women are often faced with unrealistic expectations or feeling uncomfortable about what men now perceive as normal bedroom behaviour. I find it hard to grasp that looking at content could out weight the instinct to protect your family and loved ones and my opinion on the addict theory is a personal one, I totally understand and respect differences in opinion there.