ETIAS 2025
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Hi hope everyone is as well as can be. My partner was sentenced in April 2024 after a very long and terrible 3 and a half years. He got a suspended sentence, 10 years SOR and SHPO, unpaid work and he has to do the horizon course at some point. He's been doing his probation visits and attending unpaid work, basically knuckling down and getting on with it. We are hoping to go abroad this year but looking at all the etias info it looks very daunting. One of the serious crimes was " sexual exploitation of children" and " child poronography" and it looked like if you came under these then they would refuse?. I just can't find any info about what they consider the cut off point for serious in these categories because let's face it it's pretty much everyone's partner, husband etc etc on these forums that have commited a sexual offence, so will they refuse thousands of people from going abroad? Does anyone have any info?! Or do we just book it now before it comes into force?!
Have only just heard about this coming in and your right it's not particularly clear what counts as a serious offence, is having one iioc going to be treated the same as having 1000. Reading the official website it does seem to suggest that a conviction is not an automatic bar to entry. Also the way I read it is that offences only need to be declared for 10 years after conviction (20 years for terrorism offences) so it does seem like travel to Europe is not permanently out of the question.
Seems like if you want to go on holiday to Europe the best bet is to go now whilst the free travel arrangements are still in place. Failing that be totally honest on the application and hope for the best, though it seem that to get approval to travel with a chriminal record you will have to jump through more hoops in order to get it, evidence of rehabilitation, good character etc.
Seems like if you want to go on holiday to Europe the best bet is to go now whilst the free travel arrangements are still in place. Failing that be totally honest on the application and hope for the best, though it seem that to get approval to travel with a chriminal record you will have to jump through more hoops in order to get it, evidence of rehabilitation, good character etc.
Yeah it's really not clear, like obviously if your in prison you ain't going on holiday anyway! But does that mean if you've come out of prison for one of the serious crimes they are saying you may not be able to go for at least 10 years! That's a hell of alot of people! And like you say it doesn't stipulate how many iioc or doesn't seperate downloading from people actually taking the original photos ( my partners was possession all categories and a large amount). It does seem to be that they are trying to crack down on terrorisim and human trafficking. Also say if we were to book soon, do we get permission first off the police and his probation officer?. In the info about the SOR it says inform them of dates, hotel details etc but surely you wouldn't book till you know you can go!. I'd hate to get to the airport and he gets refused!
It's 15 years now. And 25 for terror offences. If it's declined you can still apply to the relevant country's embassy and go for interview etc. But yes I hope they do it on a case by case basis and don't do blanket bans. For non-contact offences it does seem quite draconian. Even the US visa application asks you to tick the box if you've "caused harm" to a person. Many lawyers will tell you that if you interpret that as "physical" harm (and drug offences and anti-government crimes) then you could not tick the box and not technically be breaking the law. I guess that makes Europe harder to get into then the USA now.
Can't help you too much with notification requirements whilst on SOR as I never had to deal with that in regards my OH previous conviction. As I understand it you only have to notify police of dates, which airports, where your staying etc. Unless of course permission for travel is part of the licence conditions or SHPO, in which case they will need to be asked first.
Though I believe the police can inform the country your intending to travel to if they believe the person is travelling with the intention of committing further offences, they can then make it clear to the UK authorities that the person isn't welcome in the country and will be refused entry.
Though I believe the police can inform the country your intending to travel to if they believe the person is travelling with the intention of committing further offences, they can then make it clear to the UK authorities that the person isn't welcome in the country and will be refused entry.
Losing It, gawd I wouldn't want to go through the process of embassy interviews if he was refused! What a nightmare! It's all just too vague isn't it!. I understand it's to crack down on serious crime like terrorism and sex trafficking but it could stop thousands of people going on holiday! I may just be worrying ( the anxiety never goes does it! Can't see it ever will). I mean it may not come into force till towards the end of this year, but it's a worry all the same!
Yeah me too, it's almost not worth the trip. And seems intended to humiliate people long after they've spent their sentence...
I hate to be one of those people that brings everything back to Brexit BUT countries like Spain actually always banned sex offenders from entering the country by law. Free movement within the EU just meant they'd never know a person was a sex offender. So it's as much our fault as the EU's ill thought out rush for "secure" borders.
I hate to be one of those people that brings everything back to Brexit BUT countries like Spain actually always banned sex offenders from entering the country by law. Free movement within the EU just meant they'd never know a person was a sex offender. So it's as much our fault as the EU's ill thought out rush for "secure" borders.
My if off sor in 4 weeks time and had no shpo so where will we stand with going abroad in the future
Etias has not come in yet. It cant come in until 6 months after the EES is implemented and at the moment there's no start date for this, other than '2025'
So currently, there are no restrictions other than you must notify mosovo of your intent to travel if on the SOR and they need to ok it
So currently, there are no restrictions other than you must notify mosovo of your intent to travel if on the SOR and they need to ok it
It has been kicked down the road so many times. Was meant to come in 2024, then delayed.
I want to travel and so does my person. We have e managed once so far. And hope to go again before it is in place.
It is t clear to me if some countries will be ok or if it is EU countries. Not all of Europe I think uses the visa?
I am thinking I'm going to have to try to travel without him in future. But I'm not brave enough to go solo...best hope I have is girlie hols but my friends are not into the same type of holidays as me.
It is another adjustment I didn't think I would have to make
I want to travel and so does my person. We have e managed once so far. And hope to go again before it is in place.
It is t clear to me if some countries will be ok or if it is EU countries. Not all of Europe I think uses the visa?
I am thinking I'm going to have to try to travel without him in future. But I'm not brave enough to go solo...best hope I have is girlie hols but my friends are not into the same type of holidays as me.
It is another adjustment I didn't think I would have to make
My person is my 16yr old son and it's something from when he was 15 but no idea what.
He's young and constantly goes on about all the places he wants to travel to. I also said once I qualified and working I would save up and take kids back to Florida.
I feel I can't discuss travel plans for the future with my son because no idea what the outcome will be and all the hoops you might have to jump through to be allowed to enter other countries.
He's young and constantly goes on about all the places he wants to travel to. I also said once I qualified and working I would save up and take kids back to Florida.
I feel I can't discuss travel plans for the future with my son because no idea what the outcome will be and all the hoops you might have to jump through to be allowed to enter other countries.
I moved abroad (EU) with two of my children a year after the first knock. There's no way I'd have risked him travelling to us. Far too risky.
Unlock has a good section on going abroad. There is a section, Buckets, that a man was allowed a visa to the USA even with this conviction. I think the USA & Canada do consider people with convictions but it might be some years before they will allow a visa. The section highlights that the countries are willing to look at each case individually, so it is not entirely out of the question. It may be worth having a look.
I also want to travel but like you Buckets, dont really want to go on my own so i am looking at companies who specialise in solo travellers. I have not had chane to look yet though
I also want to travel but like you Buckets, dont really want to go on my own so i am looking at companies who specialise in solo travellers. I have not had chane to look yet though