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Sadly we had the knock at the end of Oct 24 and my husband was arrested on suspicion of accessing/viewing indecent images. This was mind blowing and blew my world apart. He swears blind and it was confirmed by the OIC that at the time of arrest there was only 4 continuous clicks on the same night that flagged the alert. He swears blind that he was not aware that they were 'dodgy' and 2 of the images the age was indeterminate. Surely if they can't agree if over 18 how can they expect others too. Regardless of this I wondered if anyone has been told this only to find out 6, 12 or even 18 months later that there was more. He says the phone could have automatically saved some images that again he was unaware of. Am I being too gullible or does this happen. Lastly how soon or likely do NFA occur , is it a shorter wait time or have others waited months and suffered weeks and weeks of hell for it then to be NFA.
My husbands phone was sent off due to indeterminate age also surely that is subject to opinion.
A pop up can save images without you even clicking I believe.
A pop up can save images without you even clicking I believe.
Hi, I and others who have been on this long path all questioned similar, I think it's one think we all hoped to hear. I don't believe there are many cases that unfortunatly end with NFA. The flags raised with the National Crime Agency are because the intelligence shows activity that constitutes a crime.
i hope you are not kept waiting and you receive the right outcome x
i hope you are not kept waiting and you receive the right outcome x
I was told they need to find evidence on devices to match the Intelligence. Or new evidence from forensics. Or possible admissions in interview. We are 7 months bail still waiting for a phone download apparently. Hope you get a positive outcome x
Thanks for the replies so far.... I really don't know what to think. Up until 'the knock' I had no idea that my husband even watched porn. It's 2nd marriage for both of us and we was both badly hurt first time around through cheating partners and constant lies so when my husband came along we said that the most important thing was trust and obviously faithfulness in our relationship. Now all that's got an awful black cloud hanging over it and I'm so confused ????
It's only now that I feel able to reach out as so much has happened over the last 3 months. I sometimes choose to think it will be OK as I can't bare to think of the alternatives. I have limited people to talk to as like many have said its not easy telling people and some people immediately change their view of you and person under investigation so its easier to not say anything for now.
I also feel relieved to have found this site and these forums and can relate to so many peoples posts. It's hard to read but a comfort to know that there's other out there that do truly understand what I'm going through. I also hope that I may say something that helps someone else too. Thank you again.
It's only now that I feel able to reach out as so much has happened over the last 3 months. I sometimes choose to think it will be OK as I can't bare to think of the alternatives. I have limited people to talk to as like many have said its not easy telling people and some people immediately change their view of you and person under investigation so its easier to not say anything for now.
I also feel relieved to have found this site and these forums and can relate to so many peoples posts. It's hard to read but a comfort to know that there's other out there that do truly understand what I'm going through. I also hope that I may say something that helps someone else too. Thank you again.
I am sorry you are going through this. Your situation sounds very similar to mine so I can understand the pain and confusion you're feeling right now.
My partner was arrested November 2024 and swore blind to me that the images were downloaded by accident and he had no idea how they got there. He was very convincing. However last night he broke down and finally admitted the truth - he had looked for these images intentionally on 2x occasions. I truly wanted to believe him back in November and convinced myself he was telling the truth even though there was a niggling feeling in my gut that there was more to the story. I know you don't want to hear this (because I didnt either) but I would try and prepare yourself for further info to come out. My OH said he just couldn't bare to tell the truth because he knew it would break my heart and change things forever. I honestly don't think that all men who look at these images are genuinely attracted to children, I think they just go way too far down the rabbit hole and make mistakes they can't take back.
If you ever need to talk, feel free to get in touch through messages. Please try and look after yourself. X
My partner was arrested November 2024 and swore blind to me that the images were downloaded by accident and he had no idea how they got there. He was very convincing. However last night he broke down and finally admitted the truth - he had looked for these images intentionally on 2x occasions. I truly wanted to believe him back in November and convinced myself he was telling the truth even though there was a niggling feeling in my gut that there was more to the story. I know you don't want to hear this (because I didnt either) but I would try and prepare yourself for further info to come out. My OH said he just couldn't bare to tell the truth because he knew it would break my heart and change things forever. I honestly don't think that all men who look at these images are genuinely attracted to children, I think they just go way too far down the rabbit hole and make mistakes they can't take back.
If you ever need to talk, feel free to get in touch through messages. Please try and look after yourself. X
The NFA rate for images is remarkably high and probably has a lot to do with images not being found on the devices, or the images not actually being illegal.
Hi Edel do you have any stats for NFA
Can't remember which post it was in but someone recently put up the stats for outcomes for image offences. Something like 50% never get further than the police investigation, 25% don't get past CPS so only around 25% ever get to court, however once it gets to court the conviction rate is very high, something like 95% guilty.
Once you get to charges I would imagine most people plead guilty.
I think your right that most that get to court will be a guilty plea rather than going to trial. The post that had the stats that I gave above said there were around 10000 arrests for image offences each year, so if my maths are correct only 125 walk out of court with a not guilty verdict.
You're right 26a20, I think that's the number that are getting not guilty after a trial or the CPS on the day offering no evidence and the judge has to order the jury to enter a not guilty verdict. But the 95% conviction rate is inclusive of those who plead guilty after the charge because the lawyer tells them to.
I'd be interested to see how many of the not guilty pleas which go to a 3-day+ trial with expert defence witnesses etc end in a conviction vs acquittal.
I'd be interested to see how many of the not guilty pleas which go to a 3-day+ trial with expert defence witnesses etc end in a conviction vs acquittal.
But 7500 end up with NFA?
About 5000 of that is children who have committed the crime but are NFA'd out of "best practice" rather than the fact there is no evidence. So the "real" NFA number is closer to 2500 probably. Probably can chuck conditional cautions into that as well since I don't think they are categorised as a conviction. Although these are becoming rarer.
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That's still half of the adult arrests then
Yes, seems to vary by region. As much as 68% in some parts of Wales and less than 50% in parts of England. Maybe it depends on how aggressive the regional CPS is?
Do you have links to the stats?
The stats are not easy to find. ONS publishes child abuse outcomes, using stats from the Ministry of Justice.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/datasets/childabuseandthecriminaljusticesystemappendixtables
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/datasets/childabuseandthecriminaljusticesystemappendixtables
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