What do SS do when the case is closed?
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Has anybody been in a sitaution where even though SS have closed the case, they say the dad cannot have unsupervised access until the child is 18 and I have to supervise contact until they turn 18. How can that be with a closed case? I'm not in that situation yet but it was mentioned in the latest core group meeting.
I'm not defending his behaviour, he committed an online non contact offence (no images, it was a conversation with another adult).
Are SS allowed to do this?
I'm not defending his behaviour, he committed an online non contact offence (no images, it was a conversation with another adult).
Are SS allowed to do this?
Hi,
I've had ss involvement three times throughout this journey. First was case closed with supervised contact by myself and in laws and a safety plan, second case closed with supervised contact which I was able to do without my in laws present and the latest time they've closed the case just awaiting the paperwork; phased return home and gradual unsupervised when I choose for that to happen. I don't have to go back to them again xxx
I've had ss involvement three times throughout this journey. First was case closed with supervised contact by myself and in laws and a safety plan, second case closed with supervised contact which I was able to do without my in laws present and the latest time they've closed the case just awaiting the paperwork; phased return home and gradual unsupervised when I choose for that to happen. I don't have to go back to them again xxx
Thanks for replying, how do they know that you are sticking to the plan if it's a closed case?
They don't but if anything were to happen when they've recommended supervision then it would be on the parent they've deemed as protective enough to stick to the recommended safety plan.
It's mostly about covering themselves when they make recommendations. Our daughter is still very young and supervised contact is all she's known so it's normal to her xxx
It's mostly about covering themselves when they make recommendations. Our daughter is still very young and supervised contact is all she's known so it's normal to her xxx
Hi,
Sorry to butt in to this thread. But my CIN has been closed end of Jan. Then I was left in the dark. I.e. as nothing has changed as there has been no update until this week of charge is happening. So basically still no update.
Me and my ex never lived together, however before all this did have plans to do so. However now I don't know what I'm supposed to do if our relationship maybe progresses again one day, which I am going to be honest no idea if that will happen as I don't paticularly want to see him face to face any time soon. We have been out of each other lives now nearly 10months and my LG last saw him when she was 3mnths old and because of bail situation not been able to see him since then.
My case was closed on basis of him having supervised visits by me or a member of my support group of people that was deemed supportive however none of then live near by and they all have their own lives and jobs and their own kids. So really isn't going to happen unless I am there I guess.
Anyways I feel very left to just crack on since it was closed so I emailed back to SW when the plan was closed to be told to involvement with them will happen again even after charging. So no idea how I'm supposed to progress in life with her dad if things change as they arnt on the plane don't know if I need to report changes, or updates as she doesn't seem bothered anymore. Her response was you just need to follow the plan and if he is charged and told to contact. Then there is no contact. Not really supportive tbh.
Of anyone has any helpful me id appreciate it. But I am going to be honest feel like I was working with a load of trained monkeys.
Sorry to butt in to this thread. But my CIN has been closed end of Jan. Then I was left in the dark. I.e. as nothing has changed as there has been no update until this week of charge is happening. So basically still no update.
Me and my ex never lived together, however before all this did have plans to do so. However now I don't know what I'm supposed to do if our relationship maybe progresses again one day, which I am going to be honest no idea if that will happen as I don't paticularly want to see him face to face any time soon. We have been out of each other lives now nearly 10months and my LG last saw him when she was 3mnths old and because of bail situation not been able to see him since then.
My case was closed on basis of him having supervised visits by me or a member of my support group of people that was deemed supportive however none of then live near by and they all have their own lives and jobs and their own kids. So really isn't going to happen unless I am there I guess.
Anyways I feel very left to just crack on since it was closed so I emailed back to SW when the plan was closed to be told to involvement with them will happen again even after charging. So no idea how I'm supposed to progress in life with her dad if things change as they arnt on the plane don't know if I need to report changes, or updates as she doesn't seem bothered anymore. Her response was you just need to follow the plan and if he is charged and told to contact. Then there is no contact. Not really supportive tbh.
Of anyone has any helpful me id appreciate it. But I am going to be honest feel like I was working with a load of trained monkeys.
Hi,
Once your case was closed you no longer have an assigned sw so she won't be interested tbh. My understanding is that any changes need to be reported. If his bail conditions are removed that won't need to be reported as you've already been assessed to supervise contact.
Charges being brought and sentencing its likely that it will just be a phone call to make sure that you're happy with the safety plan.
Changes within your relationship will probably require a home visit and a more robust documentation of the situation. To report changes there should be a number or email address for children's services in your area. Email is better as you then have a paper trail xxx
Once your case was closed you no longer have an assigned sw so she won't be interested tbh. My understanding is that any changes need to be reported. If his bail conditions are removed that won't need to be reported as you've already been assessed to supervise contact.
Charges being brought and sentencing its likely that it will just be a phone call to make sure that you're happy with the safety plan.
Changes within your relationship will probably require a home visit and a more robust documentation of the situation. To report changes there should be a number or email address for children's services in your area. Email is better as you then have a paper trail xxx
Thank you for the message. Well the email i got back from her was weird and she put i look forwards for you to update me with the news of what happens from court. So I was a bit distressed by reading that, as who is excited for a negative outcome. Idk
But thank you for updating me, like I said I was just left in the dark about it and was like wtf. It was like this is done now, follow the plans, by and good luck with your life.
But thank you for updating me, like I said I was just left in the dark about it and was like wtf. It was like this is done now, follow the plans, by and good luck with your life.
I think if they engaged their brain before sending emails or writing reports that would help. His bail conditions sound harsh given that he had a young baby, usually it's no contact unless approved by ss xxx
When my OH was arrested in August 2023- SS opened and closed the case as bail conditions were in place. He wasn't allowed to live at the house and I had to supervise contact.
Once he was charged in June 2024 (with Obscene Publications 1959) and bail conditions were lifted SS have made my life hell.
They got back in touch, said he isn't allowed to live at the house and put our daughter on a CPP. I'm stuck on a CPP now with no progression since August 2024. The LA will not fund an assessment with Lucy Faithful and the SW's manager admitted that they don't know how to progress the plan so I have got a solicitor involved now.
Once he was charged in June 2024 (with Obscene Publications 1959) and bail conditions were lifted SS have made my life hell.
They got back in touch, said he isn't allowed to live at the house and put our daughter on a CPP. I'm stuck on a CPP now with no progression since August 2024. The LA will not fund an assessment with Lucy Faithful and the SW's manager admitted that they don't know how to progress the plan so I have got a solicitor involved now.
Yer the OIC said they was making an example out of him because of him being done for 2 counts of IIOC at the same time. But at the same time in the same police meeting. I literally got a phone call 4 hrs before the bail conditions were made and announced to be told they had no reason to believe he had any bad intent against our baby and that they check his devices and there was nothing untoward on the devices of her. So they had no worries about their relationship. Then said he was to have 0 contact with her in any forms, like a 3month old could hold a phone call. It's all been very debilertating tbh.
Wow, upset mother that's absolutely diabolical.why do they intentionally make pur life's harder. One thing I kept repeating the whole time I saw out SW was I'm sure there is worser case and people than mine as we was doing the same thing ever 2 weeks. It was a grooming exam and just generalised conversation of whats changed, nothing oh ok.
Then basically after my like 20th visit I was told I had passed my capacity to protect, yet was never told we was doing that, and then from that it felt like we was completing a tick sheet from inside the how to be a SW for dummies guide.
Anytime I had a question, she said she didn't know would go back and get the answer and then I never got a response from her. The whole time was pretty anxiety driving and she turned up at my door 3 times with no prior appts or warning of appts and basically told me to let her in. Then when I asked if she could do that she told me no as what plan we was on was voluntary. It's was all very backwards.
Then basically after my like 20th visit I was told I had passed my capacity to protect, yet was never told we was doing that, and then from that it felt like we was completing a tick sheet from inside the how to be a SW for dummies guide.
Anytime I had a question, she said she didn't know would go back and get the answer and then I never got a response from her. The whole time was pretty anxiety driving and she turned up at my door 3 times with no prior appts or warning of appts and basically told me to let her in. Then when I asked if she could do that she told me no as what plan we was on was voluntary. It's was all very backwards.
Hi upset mother,
I think that's the case for most on CPP or PLO it's just that ss don't know how to progress the case. There was a link to an article posted on here written by a sw highlighting this. My advice would be to create your own report, document everything you and your OH have done to address the offending behaviour and associated risk.
Clearly document what you want the end goal to be alongside the measures you will take to ensure this is done in a safe way xxx
I think that's the case for most on CPP or PLO it's just that ss don't know how to progress the case. There was a link to an article posted on here written by a sw highlighting this. My advice would be to create your own report, document everything you and your OH have done to address the offending behaviour and associated risk.
Clearly document what you want the end goal to be alongside the measures you will take to ensure this is done in a safe way xxx
we've just recently been closed to CIN. Partner not allowed unsupervised access, not allowed to live with us, I can supervised after assessment. No charges or SHPO etc still on bail awaiting CPS outcome. We were told this is our plan which we must stick to until child is 18 regardless of CPS outcome or charges. They'll be in touch if anything changes and if I rekindle our relationship they'll be straight back in our lives. I can't face that again so am determined it's the end.