UPDATE- Process before crown court?
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So my OH's sentencing date is round the corner and he's been asked to come into the police station as soon as he's available. They refuse to give a reason why and it's causing more distress.
Is this standard before sentencing? Is it possible that something else has come up?
Why can't they tell us what it's for??
I am so done with police and the legal system!!!
Is this standard before sentencing? Is it possible that something else has come up?
Why can't they tell us what it's for??
I am so done with police and the legal system!!!
Ocean, after our experience with my Son, the Police are beyond cruel . In over 3yrs we have only met one who is anywhere near human. The lack of communication has been particularly distressing. Who is there to complain to ? I contacted the Police Crime Commissioner and they were as bad !
Not sure but make sure he has legal representation. Also, in case you don't know, my ex's sentencing has been adjourned the evening before, 5 times so far. X
If someone is between conviction and sentencing then the police will probably want to do a risk assessment and advise him on the SOR rules. He should have signed the SOR within 3 days of being convicted.
Normally they do the risk assessment on a home visit, but they can do it at the station instead, and it is supposed to be done within the first week.
Normally they do the risk assessment on a home visit, but they can do it at the station instead, and it is supposed to be done within the first week.
Thank you all for your responses!
Turned out to be a meeting with an offence manager who was extremely rude to him.
They asked very personal questions including ones about myself and our sex life.
It's violating to think that a stranger is asking questions like this which includes my personal life.
There were other points where she was very unprofessional, rude, and opinionated. Solicitor was not happy and said that it was inappropriate.
Just another reason to add to my already long list of the disgusting behaviour by people who are supposedly there to protect people.
Turned out to be a meeting with an offence manager who was extremely rude to him.
They asked very personal questions including ones about myself and our sex life.
It's violating to think that a stranger is asking questions like this which includes my personal life.
There were other points where she was very unprofessional, rude, and opinionated. Solicitor was not happy and said that it was inappropriate.
Just another reason to add to my already long list of the disgusting behaviour by people who are supposedly there to protect people.
Well that certainly sounds like a risk assessment. I am afraid that those personal questions are a part of the assessment, although he should remember that he does not have to answer them unless he wants to. It is not an interview under caution.
Normally they will do the assessments as part of regular home visits, so he needs to be prepared for the offence manager to visit him at home as well, where they will probably ask him similar questions again.
Normally they will do the assessments as part of regular home visits, so he needs to be prepared for the offence manager to visit him at home as well, where they will probably ask him similar questions again.
edel2020 you seem to know so much and they end up being true... I guess you work with the police or some sort? x
What has that got to do with anything? He refused to answer because it's private.
It's like they get a kick out of degrading you as much as possible.
It's like they get a kick out of degrading you as much as possible.
His sex life is relevant to risk. Some sexual activity will be seen as raising risk of reoffending e.g. some pornography use, paying for sex, hook up sites, certain roleplay. Generally being in a consensual and honest sexual relationship is a big reducer of risk of reoffending. They would also want to remind him that if his partner sends him intimate images these could be seen by police so she/he should be warned. It *ought* to be as matter of fact as if you are discussing a personal problem at the doctor's. Clearly your OH felt the way the officer was acting was trying to assert power and humiliate him which they shouldn't be doing. These officers are meant to be about public protection, not part of the punishment for him or for you!
Ocean13, unfortunately if your OH is placed on the SOR he will be asked personal questions like that on a regular basis during his home visits by his offender manager.
I guess I'll just say goodbye to ever being treated like a human being deserving of a private life anymore
suziesweet,
No, I dont work with the police, my son was arrested a few years back. But I do a lot of reading about these things and I understand how the police operate.
There are many different ways to carry out these risk assessments. Some offender managers are better than others. The police are not much different from the general public, in that they have certain prejudices about sexual offenders and about certain types of sexual behaviour.
The best ones will keep their personal opinions to themselves and focus on the positive aspects of someones life. Believe it or not, they are supposed to help the person to rehabilitate, as well as protect the public. That is part of their job description, although from what I see on here, a lot of them view the public protection part as the only thing that matters.
No one is forced to speak to them or to tell them anything at all. Of course, they are not going to mention that, because they are there to gather information. Thats probably why they did not say what the purpose of the meeting was. As soon as they mention the word risk, people become very defensive and thats not what they want. To get information, they will usually try to create a positive atmosphere, but clearly they do not always get that right!
If someone does not want to discuss intimate details of their personal life, they should just say so and there is nothing the police can do about it. At the same time though, it benefits the person to be co operative, because the police are incredibly suspicious and will assume they are hiding something, if they go no comment.
Its about getting the balance right. Tell them just enough to keep them happy and no more than that.
No, I dont work with the police, my son was arrested a few years back. But I do a lot of reading about these things and I understand how the police operate.
There are many different ways to carry out these risk assessments. Some offender managers are better than others. The police are not much different from the general public, in that they have certain prejudices about sexual offenders and about certain types of sexual behaviour.
The best ones will keep their personal opinions to themselves and focus on the positive aspects of someones life. Believe it or not, they are supposed to help the person to rehabilitate, as well as protect the public. That is part of their job description, although from what I see on here, a lot of them view the public protection part as the only thing that matters.
No one is forced to speak to them or to tell them anything at all. Of course, they are not going to mention that, because they are there to gather information. Thats probably why they did not say what the purpose of the meeting was. As soon as they mention the word risk, people become very defensive and thats not what they want. To get information, they will usually try to create a positive atmosphere, but clearly they do not always get that right!
If someone does not want to discuss intimate details of their personal life, they should just say so and there is nothing the police can do about it. At the same time though, it benefits the person to be co operative, because the police are incredibly suspicious and will assume they are hiding something, if they go no comment.
Its about getting the balance right. Tell them just enough to keep them happy and no more than that.