Voyerism charges
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My partner had his charges through today. 3 counts of voyerism. These charge relate to him taking photos of his 2 kids and ex partner on the toilet. None of the photos are indecent.
i know he hasn't done anything wrong as many people take these picture when the kids are young, but just wondering how bad could this get? Can he really face prison if found guilty?
i know he hasn't done anything wrong as many people take these picture when the kids are young, but just wondering how bad could this get? Can he really face prison if found guilty?
Voyeurism is about consent. Did his ex partner agree to him taking the photo? If they did not, then it is a crime.
When it comes to children, there are two seperate issues. One is about consent, which children cannot give legally anyway and then there is a seperate question about producing an indecent image of a child, which would usually come down to a jurys opinion on what is indecent.
The maximum sentence for voyeurism is 2 years in jail, but it depends on the context. If the offence involved a degree of planning, such as a hidden camera for example, that would increase the possibility of a prison sentence.
If he were also charged with producing an indecent image of a child, then that is a lot more serious and a possible maximum sentence of 10 years, although very few people get the maximum sentence.
When it comes to children, there are two seperate issues. One is about consent, which children cannot give legally anyway and then there is a seperate question about producing an indecent image of a child, which would usually come down to a jurys opinion on what is indecent.
The maximum sentence for voyeurism is 2 years in jail, but it depends on the context. If the offence involved a degree of planning, such as a hidden camera for example, that would increase the possibility of a prison sentence.
If he were also charged with producing an indecent image of a child, then that is a lot more serious and a possible maximum sentence of 10 years, although very few people get the maximum sentence.
I'm not sure it would be right to say 'many' people though? I can't imagine taking pics / videos of my children using the toilet. I think they'd be pretty shocked by it, even when young.
One upshot of the IIOC investigation in my case was that it came to light that my now ex had secretly filmed me in the bedroom and bathroom. The OIC asked me if it was consensual, and when I said no, made it clear that she was willing to take it forward legally. It was my choice not to. So presumably his ex was asked the same question. My understanding of voyeurism is that it is illegal to film someone without their consent in a location where they might reasonably expect privacy? IIRC I don't think the motivation matters- ie the police don't have to prove it was sexually motivated? By if anyone knows better I'd be happy to be corrected.
One upshot of the IIOC investigation in my case was that it came to light that my now ex had secretly filmed me in the bedroom and bathroom. The OIC asked me if it was consensual, and when I said no, made it clear that she was willing to take it forward legally. It was my choice not to. So presumably his ex was asked the same question. My understanding of voyeurism is that it is illegal to film someone without their consent in a location where they might reasonably expect privacy? IIRC I don't think the motivation matters- ie the police don't have to prove it was sexually motivated? By if anyone knows better I'd be happy to be corrected.
As edel has explained, voyeurism comes down to consent and intent. From my understanding based on what the police have explained to me, on a scale of sex offences, voyeurism is considered somewhat more severe than viewing iioc. For the reason that by the nature of actively recording or taking photos of children doing a private act, you could theoretically be producing iioc.
Unfortunately voyeurism can result in a prison sentence. My partner is currently serving 2 years (1 year in prison, the other on licence) for voyeurism (his ex - no children) and viewing iioc (all categories).
Unfortunately voyeurism can result in a prison sentence. My partner is currently serving 2 years (1 year in prison, the other on licence) for voyeurism (his ex - no children) and viewing iioc (all categories).
This might be of interest to you regarding sentencing. A lot will focus on abuse of trust. No one should be photographed whilst toileting especially a child, who cannot consent, in my opinion. People do go to prison for a first offence. My ex did. He didn't take any photos but he downloaded indecent images. Wishing you all the best. X
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/voyeurism/
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/voyeurism/
Sorry if you've found the responses overwhelming. Ppl are trying to help but I know it's hard to hear!
In terms of sentencing, the fact your partner sees themselves as having done nothing wrong won't help. Even if there was no sexual motivation it's still very intrusive & inappropriate & outside the range of normal parenting behaviour. And I'm a very unprudish parent who lives with young teen / preteen boys so I'm not phased by crude humour! I know that isn't easy to hear, but it sounds like him admitting that & working through it would be a good start. SS would also look for that too I'd imagine. It might also help with sentencing. Also I presume that if they've found no other images, conversations or suspicious search activity on his devices it would somewhat strengthen his claim that there was no sexual motivation?
In terms of sentencing, the fact your partner sees themselves as having done nothing wrong won't help. Even if there was no sexual motivation it's still very intrusive & inappropriate & outside the range of normal parenting behaviour. And I'm a very unprudish parent who lives with young teen / preteen boys so I'm not phased by crude humour! I know that isn't easy to hear, but it sounds like him admitting that & working through it would be a good start. SS would also look for that too I'd imagine. It might also help with sentencing. Also I presume that if they've found no other images, conversations or suspicious search activity on his devices it would somewhat strengthen his claim that there was no sexual motivation?
Sad&scared.
Maybe the original poster has said so in a different post but in this one they state that they don't think there's anything wrong with the photos. They don't mention what the partner thinks, at least, that's how I've read it. X
Maybe the original poster has said so in a different post but in this one they state that they don't think there's anything wrong with the photos. They don't mention what the partner thinks, at least, that's how I've read it. X
From someone who experienced voyerism a the hands of my ex husband, there certainly is something wrong in this man taking photos of his children and ex partner on the toilet. I would be greatly concerned about this behaviour and if charges are coming his way then in the eyes of the law the photographs and his behaviour is also deemed wrong. Please don't allow him to make you think that he hasn't done anything wrong, as he most certainly has, you, his ex wife and children deserve better.