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this sint to alarm anyone and I'm sure a lot of you are aware of it i have been for a few months now .. website called UK red rose and a Facebook page , basically regurgitating the past and present anyone can contact the page with information about sex crimes iioc crimes and domestic violence crimes and they will literally post anything an everything and everyone as long as there is articles to back it up. I seen my young person on there and it brought back lots of feelings it was gutt wrenching and put back out there on facebook yet again for people to share and spread qere 2 years down the line nearly it's never going to stop I have actually wondered how are these websites allowed these crimes are never to be forgotten otr the children whom suffered in them , we have to endure this for the rest of lives , and I see people are being hounded from their new homes after being put out Initially when is this going to stop social media has ruined my families life also as well as everything else that had gone on, and the guy that runs the Web page and Facebook page is brutal people comment on the whereabouts of people like our people then they add it to their profile etc, I contacted my young person's poli r worker who goes out to check his phone etc. and he said I totally sympathise with your family but there is nothing I can do , I sent an email to the local MP no reply, I contacted crimestoppers ironically as harassment be ause this is just causing more stress and harm and personally I can't cope wondering if someone spots him they will rally up another protest and then we have to go through it all again my young person wouldn't cope a 2nd time round of that I know I won't what the hell can be done @lucyfaithful is there anything you can do please this is so scary
This is a complete nightmare for us but I fear there's nothing we can do about it.
it's terrible they are even bringing up people's convictions from years ago and bringing it all to the surface just when us families are thinking things are beginning to settle the nightmare continues there is just no escaping it I don't know how much more worry I can go through this consumes my life then I find a little happiness again and my young person is doing amazing he's oblivious to any of this going on I just fear for his future and suicide is a massive worry if people were to find out where he lives they will post it on that site then it riles it all up again
It's awful. The media in my local area now do an additional online story at the end of each month naming and shaming the people convicted or waiting for sentencing for child sex offences that month. They repost each of the cases and photos despite the fact that each one was reported on at the time by the media that same month.
They have stirred the whole community up and now every post whether it's related to a sexual offence or not will generate lots of comments about the soft sentencing of 'P's. It's got so bad that my son's probation officer contacted him to ask if he'd experienced any negative outcome from all the local publicity and said that they are making contact with everyone else in similar situations to check on their well being.
Like everything else it's a storm we've got to ride and hopefully one that people will soon tire of.
Sending you and your family lots of best wishes and support.
They have stirred the whole community up and now every post whether it's related to a sexual offence or not will generate lots of comments about the soft sentencing of 'P's. It's got so bad that my son's probation officer contacted him to ask if he'd experienced any negative outcome from all the local publicity and said that they are making contact with everyone else in similar situations to check on their well being.
Like everything else it's a storm we've got to ride and hopefully one that people will soon tire of.
Sending you and your family lots of best wishes and support.
I know the exact Facebook page your talking about it's horrendous there dragging things up from years ago if you have done your time and no further convictions I don't know why they can't leave alone it's devastating
it's heartbreaking for families and people whom have spent their time hounding people out their homes that have been free of charges and jail for 6 years plus and the media is stirring it all and it's kids and teenagers that are showing up they are coming more damage than good because people will.defend themselves and the police will be called for what? to remove someone that had been removed and rehomed and doesn't require rehoming it's causing a massive rift the Internet the reason why we are all here in the first place is just pure toxic and trouble
Oh my goodness. Something else to add to the mix. I don't do Facebook any longer. Is it a public page or do people have to ask to join. I just looked at the website. How can this be allowed
Sometimes I hate social media - when used thoughtfully it can be a wonderful way to communicate but how quick the worm can turn, it becomes evil and can ruin lives. I only do WhatsApp these days and of course use this forum.
when my son is released I feel he has served his sentence and as he will have restrictions in place/be monitored - he continues to pay for what he's done - so just leave him alone..
Being honest I would have been judgmental and weiry of a person convicted of these crimes before it happened in our family. This journey opens our eyes to see the backlash and suffering it creates. The unfairness to families, friends and children dragged through this mud too as these 'vigantees' keep their claws in, is horrendous. So in their 'quest' they create MORE victims. Do they actually 'see' this, or just don't care!
My support is given to those going through any backlash and I totally understand your frustration and anger.
when my son is released I feel he has served his sentence and as he will have restrictions in place/be monitored - he continues to pay for what he's done - so just leave him alone..
Being honest I would have been judgmental and weiry of a person convicted of these crimes before it happened in our family. This journey opens our eyes to see the backlash and suffering it creates. The unfairness to families, friends and children dragged through this mud too as these 'vigantees' keep their claws in, is horrendous. So in their 'quest' they create MORE victims. Do they actually 'see' this, or just don't care!
My support is given to those going through any backlash and I totally understand your frustration and anger.
CAGGIE I don't know why ots allowed but it's all public the website and the Facebook page I don't have social media but ofcourse people have shown me and told me there are a lot of people I know on it for all different reasons but yes again people aren't allowed to move on, I too before it happened in my family would have been weary of people but seeing first hand how the media have twisted and manipulated the public in our story I know they have done it to many others , they have opportunities to make situations good or bad and they choose to make them bad they stir it and it's that that causes the public backlash because unfortunately people do believe what they read , don't get me wrong I know a lot of the time the truth is written and yes these crimes deserve to be brought to the surface but we don't deserve to continually suffer over and over I mean the hole in our hearts by our family member is enough pain to take one person down without anything in the media but when this happens I feel like a sinking ship surrounded by great whites ..the fear just rips through me and opens up all the wounds I was doing great until I was told of it and that wasn't my intention to make anyone else feel this way but it's out there and anyone can post into it woth information it's like a game of car and mouse, basically they have the power to post and the public has the power to ruin us even further I'm devastated
They also post about people who have been charged but have pleaded not guilty are are yet to go to trial. So much for innocent until proven guilty and as for having paid a debt to society, forget it! With these sort of crimes it appears the public never forgive or forget. I hate it. It's the absolute wettest aspect of all this for us. It's so unfair.
it really is Littlerobin, that page is just posting whatever they get sent in by the public anything that's being posted in the local rags the public is then posting it onto that site and the guy is just uploading everything this week I seen one guy defending his past refusing to leave his home and standing up for himself publicly very brave of him but his crime was over 5 years ago and he's been out thr jaile several years living a quiet life but because someone knows of his crime and where he lives they posted it on there and created a protest at his home (his crime was not child related ) it's honestly brewing a storm and I dont see any good coming from the web page or Facebook page it's crimes that people know of already but just another chance to spread hate with zero regard for us the families also victims
I suppose though you have to be a certain type of person to be searching these sites/pages out. When my person was live streamed on Facebook none of my friends ever encountered it. It was only when I told them that they knew. It is unfair as none of us condone what our people have done and they've been punished by the courts so then to be trialled by social media again is unfair. My person has 10 years on the SOR and SHPO people have no idea what that entails but still think they've 'got away with it' just because some people didn't get a custodial sentence.
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We wanted to contribute to this thread because we understand that groups or sites online discussing individuals and their offences can be really upsetting, especially if it is someone we know and care about. We understand how incredibly difficult it can be for individuals and families to begin rebuilding and moving forward. When pages or groups on social media resurface past events, it can feel like all the progress made is suddenly undone – like being pulled back to the beginning. For many, seeing that kind of information online again can bring up a whole range of difficult emotions, including fear, anger, or anxiety. Those reactions are completely understandable.
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You can also find information and advice about the media on our website.
It’s also important to remember that what appears in the media or on social media is often a limited, and sometimes unfair, portrayal. It rarely tells the whole story, especially when it comes to the effort people are making to take responsibility and move forward. It is also important to remember that posts will eventually be buried and forgotten about. What may feel very present at the moment will lose public interest over time.
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We wanted to contribute to this thread because we understand that groups or sites online discussing individuals and their offences can be really upsetting, especially if it is someone we know and care about. We understand how incredibly difficult it can be for individuals and families to begin rebuilding and moving forward. When pages or groups on social media resurface past events, it can feel like all the progress made is suddenly undone – like being pulled back to the beginning. For many, seeing that kind of information online again can bring up a whole range of difficult emotions, including fear, anger, or anxiety. Those reactions are completely understandable.
We know that when information is shared publicly about arrests or convictions, it can feel exposing and frightening. For some, it can also raise fears about being recognised themselves or someone close to them, judged, or even targeted.
If you or someone close to you is being targeted through threats, harassment, or unwanted attention as a result of the media site or not — it’s really important to know that help is available. We encourage you to contact the police if you feel at risk. Everyone has the right to feel safe, and no one should have to deal with intimidation or harm, online or offline.
If you’re feeling overwhelmed, here are a few things that might help:
• Take a break from social media - Seeing this kind of content again and again can make things feel more intense. It’s okay to step back and protect your wellbeing.
• Talk to someone - Whether it's with our support team, a counsellor, or a trusted person in your life, speaking things through can really help. You can also call our Stop It Now helpline on 0808 1000 900 for confidential and non-judgemental support.
• Focus on what you can control - While you may not be able to change what’s out there, you can manage what you choose to engage with.
• Be kind to yourself - You’re allowed to feel upset, angry, or afraid. Look after yourself as best as you can and engage in activities that are healthy and positive for you.
In addition, whilst it can be difficult to prevent a story from being published, there are some measures that you can take to help you possibly mitigate some of the harm:
• Protect your online presence – Strengthen your social media privacy settings, be mindful of what you share publicly, and monitor your online reputation to address false or damaging information.
• Explore legal options – Consult a lawyer to understand your rights regarding defamation, privacy, or false information. Legal actions such as cease-and-desist letters may be available depending on your jurisdiction.
• Seek support – Reach out to organisations or advocacy groups that specialise in media relations, privacy rights, or victim support. They may be able to provide guidance, resources, or assistance in navigating the situation.
You can also find information and advice about the media on our website.
It’s also important to remember that what appears in the media or on social media is often a limited, and sometimes unfair, portrayal. It rarely tells the whole story, especially when it comes to the effort people are making to take responsibility and move forward. It is also important to remember that posts will eventually be buried and forgotten about. What may feel very present at the moment will lose public interest over time.
If anything in this thread has brought up some difficult feelings that you would like some support around, we’re here. You’re always welcome to send us an email on forum@lucyfaithfull.org.uk or call our helpline.
Kind regards,
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I don't seek out this kind of information either but right now where I live people thrive on sharing this kind of stuff honestly god forbid it ever happens to any of their immediate family that they love and care for because there is no worse feeling than your life being ripped apart and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it I don't have Facebook I hate it with a passion and I do tell my friends not to shar information qith me but that site is going to cause so much heartache for families trust me on that and if the police can't do anything abkut it then they better get used to anti social behaviour because that's all that's happening there
Thankyou Forum Team for your support on this thread.
yes thank you also forum team for the input
I'm going to strike a discordant note here...but...
I don't think any offender - including my ex - should get to 'move on' completely. In fact the use of that phrase in the context of these offenders makes me really uncomfortable. The children who are raped and abused in these images won't ever get to 'move on'. Even if they can overcome the trauma personally to lead fairly normal lives, they will know that images of their ordeals are still circulating online, still being viewed for sexual kicks. In a sense the abuse never ends for them. So I actually get why some people are viscerally opposed to offenders just seeming to sink out of sight. I know the standard answer is "But they're monitored". But distrust of police, probation and SS monitoring is understandable, given the well-documented failures of all those institutions. My main issue with media on this issue is the potential for harm to the completely innocent, especially children of offenders. And the fact its probably counter-productive in terms of monitoring offenders and preventing further offending.
I guess I've just accepted that the ex will never entirely get to move on, and that I and my children won't either as long as we have contact with him, and to some extent even if we don't (the long term emotional impact). And if anyone thinks I'm hard-hearted, note that I'm willing to pay that price (at least for myself) indefinitely because there is mercy and forgiveness as well as justice. But there IS justice. And I guess for me justice isn't 'moving on'. Also I blame him for that entirely. I get uncomfortable when people here say things like "social media / the police / SS have ruined my life", because actually its the offender. Its all the offender. And TBH I lose it completely with the world's-tiniest-violin posts about not being able to go on foreign holidays or whatever.
I'm not pretending there isn't a big big part of me that wants the charges to be lighter or the media not to turn up or his excuses to be true, largely for my children's sake. Of course there is, because I'm human. But I guess I've increasingly accepted that there's a bigger picture.
I think I just need to never go on here again TBH! Its getting to me too much. Paradoxically I actually despise my ex a little more ever time I log on. Its just a constant reminder of what these men unleash
I don't think any offender - including my ex - should get to 'move on' completely. In fact the use of that phrase in the context of these offenders makes me really uncomfortable. The children who are raped and abused in these images won't ever get to 'move on'. Even if they can overcome the trauma personally to lead fairly normal lives, they will know that images of their ordeals are still circulating online, still being viewed for sexual kicks. In a sense the abuse never ends for them. So I actually get why some people are viscerally opposed to offenders just seeming to sink out of sight. I know the standard answer is "But they're monitored". But distrust of police, probation and SS monitoring is understandable, given the well-documented failures of all those institutions. My main issue with media on this issue is the potential for harm to the completely innocent, especially children of offenders. And the fact its probably counter-productive in terms of monitoring offenders and preventing further offending.
I guess I've just accepted that the ex will never entirely get to move on, and that I and my children won't either as long as we have contact with him, and to some extent even if we don't (the long term emotional impact). And if anyone thinks I'm hard-hearted, note that I'm willing to pay that price (at least for myself) indefinitely because there is mercy and forgiveness as well as justice. But there IS justice. And I guess for me justice isn't 'moving on'. Also I blame him for that entirely. I get uncomfortable when people here say things like "social media / the police / SS have ruined my life", because actually its the offender. Its all the offender. And TBH I lose it completely with the world's-tiniest-violin posts about not being able to go on foreign holidays or whatever.
I'm not pretending there isn't a big big part of me that wants the charges to be lighter or the media not to turn up or his excuses to be true, largely for my children's sake. Of course there is, because I'm human. But I guess I've increasingly accepted that there's a bigger picture.
I think I just need to never go on here again TBH! Its getting to me too much. Paradoxically I actually despise my ex a little more ever time I log on. Its just a constant reminder of what these men unleash
I don't care whether my ex gets to "move on". But I want to move on and will never be able to do so. Only recently did someone in my street phone the Police to complain about my ex visiting his son here. His crimes were 8 YEARS AGO. Its a never ending stress for us. And we're completely innocent.
totally agree with your point and in no way am I saying they should just get to slip out of public sight and yes those kids don't get to move on it's them that it's happened to and that makes me sick to my stomach that people view it I get the heartache and everyone's case and offence is also different , I get that we are in this position because of family members or partners and yes be punished which my family member has been punished massively from the judge and the public ...what I personally cannot cope with it's the fear I have and the worry that I feel on a daily basis because when do we get to not worry and tey forget even for an hour a day would be somewhat nice ,who protects the family? no one we don't get protected from our love and our feelings me personally I cannot just stop loving my young family member I'm not built like that I've tried in the beginning and that broke my heart more I probably fear for my own feelings on it all because for the first time in my life I am in a position that I cannot control ..never do I think they just get to move on I know my young person is so remorseful and yes it will love qith him for life I'm not going over his story on here anymore ive done that too much in the beginning , I know what I know and know what his truth is and that's all that matters to me , but do I want him hounded out his home that he's now settled in with another vigilante group. no I certainly do not that's where my fear lies , he's also a victim of this crime too he's been groomed at a very young age and is dealing with that so yes I most definitely want him to start over in life and be able to put this behind him it will always hurt and always be sore on everyone that loves him because were so close yes he brought it on us nor sure I will ever forgive that either but I love him ..but yes social media doesn't always get things right it's a gateway for people to be mean and it does ruin life's I mean look how easier spread and easy access to these vile videos and images etc it is to get or chat rooms speaking to strangers it all stems from online and only getting worse...si I guess in all of it it's myself that is scared and worried because I know I cannot cope having to go through that all again because he's been spotted in the street. I too probably stop coming here to check things and vent but I find a safe space to get my thoughts and feelings out there without being judged about the actual crime itself etc but at some point for me to move on I have to forget about this site also but I'm not ready for that yet x
My fear was this crime would never go away and would always be hanging over our heads. Even though I ended the marriage and I'm 3 years post knock I'm afraid the offending will still.ckme back to haunt me.
I live in a very small place and an about to put the house on the market. I'm thinking someone will put 2 and 2 together and realise that this is where he lived.
I live in a very small place and an about to put the house on the market. I'm thinking someone will put 2 and 2 together and realise that this is where he lived.
the trauma these crimes bring to us i know isn't a patch on the victims themselves but it hurts like hell a life once known to be our normal will never be that same normal again that's for sure
I've never heard of that site, and thankfully have never come across it on FB.
My OH appears in MANY newspapers and several different polce fb pages, without me knowing he's on another site......wouldn't be surprised though :-(
OH wasn't just charged with iioc all categories, he had voyeurism too.......I can't say the names I called him and still do!
My head is totally screwed up because I can't decide whether to take him back, but I'm worried about the potential trouble that could come with that.
My OH appears in MANY newspapers and several different polce fb pages, without me knowing he's on another site......wouldn't be surprised though :-(
OH wasn't just charged with iioc all categories, he had voyeurism too.......I can't say the names I called him and still do!
My head is totally screwed up because I can't decide whether to take him back, but I'm worried about the potential trouble that could come with that.
It's a mess
Regarding taking him back, my worry was the lengths he was willing to go to lie to me for decades and the risk he'd reoffend. However, I really did believe he would never put us through all this again - yet here we are with him awaiting sentencing for reoffending. I just can't live like this anymore with him bringing this stuff to my life. It's not fair. I REALLY wish I'd walked away the first time. X
Regarding taking him back, my worry was the lengths he was willing to go to lie to me for decades and the risk he'd reoffend. However, I really did believe he would never put us through all this again - yet here we are with him awaiting sentencing for reoffending. I just can't live like this anymore with him bringing this stuff to my life. It's not fair. I REALLY wish I'd walked away the first time. X