Is It True re device checking?
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Just wondered is it true devices are not done in the order the police submit them. Can a more serious case leapfrog the lesser cases?
My 16yr sons devices were supposed to be checked last week of March but still no update. They were also never checked prior to sending off.
Its frustrating when in approximately 9 weeks it will be a year since the knock, plus he turns 17 in next few weeks and we are no closer to knowing what exactly he's supposed to have done.
Tried to get update from OIC to see if checking started but no response. Also tried to find out current backlog for device checking in my area.
I'm back to waking in the morning and it's my first thought and my last thought at night. Plus now off work with stress because of the worry and seeing the negative impact on his first year of A levels.
My 16yr sons devices were supposed to be checked last week of March but still no update. They were also never checked prior to sending off.
Its frustrating when in approximately 9 weeks it will be a year since the knock, plus he turns 17 in next few weeks and we are no closer to knowing what exactly he's supposed to have done.
Tried to get update from OIC to see if checking started but no response. Also tried to find out current backlog for device checking in my area.
I'm back to waking in the morning and it's my first thought and my last thought at night. Plus now off work with stress because of the worry and seeing the negative impact on his first year of A levels.
I do believe more serious cases can 'leapfrog' to the front, making waiting times even longer. It seems very unfair that youths have these long wait times.
All I can say that once the devices do come back, things do tend to move quicker for Youths, especially once it reaches the CPS as they have a department specfically for youths.
The 'knock' to youth court was just over a year for the young person in our family. So I truely hope you are not waiting much longer.
If it does carry on for much longer, have you thought of complaining or contacting your local MP, maybe?
All I can say that once the devices do come back, things do tend to move quicker for Youths, especially once it reaches the CPS as they have a department specfically for youths.
The 'knock' to youth court was just over a year for the young person in our family. So I truely hope you are not waiting much longer.
If it does carry on for much longer, have you thought of complaining or contacting your local MP, maybe?
I contacted the police department involved with online crime today to ask about timelines. All they could tell me was that they couldn't really say as the forensics team in my area deals with the whole county and covers all online crime and there's a backlog. She said they have to assess risk for all concerned to decide when devices will get checked. Offenders considered high risk will be prioritied. I'm pretty sure my husband is classed as low risk, so judging by the conversation it could be a year for his devices to be cchecked. 2025 can just do one. 0 out of 5. Do not recommend
I believe that serious cases jump to the top of the queue. My son had 3 devises checked. One was checked at the police station during his arrest, his laptop was checked and returned within a few weeks and his phone took a few months to come back. His charge was communication which he admitted straight away. Most of the evidence came from his own admission. No images were found so there was no need for forensics.
Despite having his phone returned quite quickly it still took 22 months to get from arrest to sentencing.
Despite having his phone returned quite quickly it still took 22 months to get from arrest to sentencing.
I don't get how some forces check at police stations and others like ours send off to forensics straightaway. We were told they would sit in a locker until tested. The OIC did say he had sent my messages stating the negative impact on my son but response he got was they said it could not get the check done quicker. That made me think despite being told it was March when the check was being done it possibly not even been started.
All they have is iPhone, xbox and tablet.
My son still states he doesn't know what it relates to. OIC said keep the Snapchat emails where he's reported violations and confirmation one was accepted.
As for complaining we had thought at the end we may but like with contacting MP would that draw negative attention to us and ruin my sons life further together with the families.
All they have is iPhone, xbox and tablet.
My son still states he doesn't know what it relates to. OIC said keep the Snapchat emails where he's reported violations and confirmation one was accepted.
As for complaining we had thought at the end we may but like with contacting MP would that draw negative attention to us and ruin my sons life further together with the families.
I really feel for you, the not knowing and waiting is just awful.
It's just a thought, but could your son have communicated with someone in what could be considered an inappropriate way without knowing it was inappropriate.
I really hope you soon start to get some answers.
It's just a thought, but could your son have communicated with someone in what could be considered an inappropriate way without knowing it was inappropriate.
I really hope you soon start to get some answers.
Hi Ocean
We really don't know. All I got from him when I asked what he reported and if possibly iioc he said maybe. I found 3 emails reporting items to snapchat and one email stating they accepted 1 as a violation.
He's always been very much what you would call a prude. Very much a kid that followed the rules to the letter and terrified of ever getting in trouble. The incident whatever it was related to when he was 15 and around time he got Snapchat. All we know is IP address and his email is linked to something and on the day the kept saying a child is up to 18 and looking for an image. This makes me think it was school related. He never saw anyone away from school though because it was an hour away and because he was always scared having friends would get him in trouble he didn't really talk to anyone at school until last year.
He is a child that reports anything that's wrong. He told police he had clicked on links and stuff had come up but he came off them.
Part of me wonders if someone from school sent him something. A kid in his class once air dropped a photo of themselves to him. Innocent photo but just odd to send. Then same kid turned up in his college class, but my son moved to A levels and this kid turned up again but then disappeared when I queried it with college safeguarding. That could be us jumping to conclusions as to why.
See fact police said keep the emails from Snapchat makes me think that's where it relates to, but if he's reported stuff how's he seen it or worse whose sent it to him.
Sorry for long response, just finding it hard at minute.
We really don't know. All I got from him when I asked what he reported and if possibly iioc he said maybe. I found 3 emails reporting items to snapchat and one email stating they accepted 1 as a violation.
He's always been very much what you would call a prude. Very much a kid that followed the rules to the letter and terrified of ever getting in trouble. The incident whatever it was related to when he was 15 and around time he got Snapchat. All we know is IP address and his email is linked to something and on the day the kept saying a child is up to 18 and looking for an image. This makes me think it was school related. He never saw anyone away from school though because it was an hour away and because he was always scared having friends would get him in trouble he didn't really talk to anyone at school until last year.
He is a child that reports anything that's wrong. He told police he had clicked on links and stuff had come up but he came off them.
Part of me wonders if someone from school sent him something. A kid in his class once air dropped a photo of themselves to him. Innocent photo but just odd to send. Then same kid turned up in his college class, but my son moved to A levels and this kid turned up again but then disappeared when I queried it with college safeguarding. That could be us jumping to conclusions as to why.
See fact police said keep the emails from Snapchat makes me think that's where it relates to, but if he's reported stuff how's he seen it or worse whose sent it to him.
Sorry for long response, just finding it hard at minute.
Cases where the person has been remanded into custody seem to get done first because they're taking up a prison place I guess.
My ex was remanded into custody after his first arrest. 5 weeks later, he was sentenced so devices were sent off and checked in that timeframe. Second time round, he was arrested but not remanded. That was over 3 years ago and he's awaiting sentencing.
I get they have backlogs but kids should be dealt with different and other cases should not leapfrog them. For me impact on kids is far greater than adults. Adults have more responsibility for their actions. Children accused need same protection as those on the other side of this, but for some reason they get treated same as adults to a certain extent.
I can only imagine how hard this must be for you. Not knowing must be sending your mind into complete turmoil. The overthinking on this journey is huge and trying to work out what's happened must make things so much more difficult.
I don't understand how the police can leave you in this situation. I thought they had to put details on the paperwork they give at the time of the arrrest. Are the police refusing to tell you due to your sons confidentiality or have they given you a different reason?
I don't understand how the police can leave you in this situation. I thought they had to put details on the paperwork they give at the time of the arrrest. Are the police refusing to tell you due to your sons confidentiality or have they given you a different reason?
The overthinking is definitely the worst in this situation. Plus the guilt of not protecting him. He's a straight A student and prided himself on always doing the right thing. So this makes no sense. I've every protection in place on Internet now and all apps and websites require my approval. But all he does is sits downstairs, plays on PlayStation and goes to college. He's excited about new nintendo coming out. He never complains about restrictions.
Sad part is he still won't sleep in his bed, it's an high rised bed. He sleeps on floor. Initially his head was at door so he could still see us at night. Prior to this he had just started to be ok being left alone in house briefly but now he hates being home alone. And every knock at door he's on edge. We make sure he's aware a parcel is due.
The police state they have told us more than they tell others. But all they have said is IIOC was viewed and linked to our IP and his username which is he email. But I don't know if this is Snapchat, website or what. I said how can I protect him if we don't know what's exactly happened. Every scenario runs through my head like he would fall asleep watching tiktok or youtube so I wonder if they skip to next video and as something come up whilst he slept. If snapchat I thought it was people sending stuff so if that's case whose sent it and why. So many questions.
On day of arrest we picked up bits in conversation that it was last October. That was when he got Snapchat because doing a project st school. I never questioned it because of the type of child he is. The police also spoke as if looking for one image. Then plus fact my sons reported stuff to snapchat that makes me think it's related to that app. But I just don't know.
Just want the nightmare over.
Sad part is he still won't sleep in his bed, it's an high rised bed. He sleeps on floor. Initially his head was at door so he could still see us at night. Prior to this he had just started to be ok being left alone in house briefly but now he hates being home alone. And every knock at door he's on edge. We make sure he's aware a parcel is due.
The police state they have told us more than they tell others. But all they have said is IIOC was viewed and linked to our IP and his username which is he email. But I don't know if this is Snapchat, website or what. I said how can I protect him if we don't know what's exactly happened. Every scenario runs through my head like he would fall asleep watching tiktok or youtube so I wonder if they skip to next video and as something come up whilst he slept. If snapchat I thought it was people sending stuff so if that's case whose sent it and why. So many questions.
On day of arrest we picked up bits in conversation that it was last October. That was when he got Snapchat because doing a project st school. I never questioned it because of the type of child he is. The police also spoke as if looking for one image. Then plus fact my sons reported stuff to snapchat that makes me think it's related to that app. But I just don't know.
Just want the nightmare over.