Can supervised go to unsupervised after conviction
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Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone knew if it's possible that supervised contact with own children can go to unsupervised. I'm asking because before the conviction social services wanted supervised, my ex is due to be released from prison and he has told his mother that in the prison someone official has said in his shpo it says he can't have unsupervised access to under 16s but there's nothing about his own children so he seems to think he can see them unsupervised which I'm quite concerned about really I don't think I would feel comfortable him seeing them unsupervised. Unsure if social services will visit me soon to discuss what is to happen as it's very soon his release and no contact has been made by them. Has this happened to anyone else?
There's definitely a disconnect between the SHPO and what social services will approve, and it doesn't help us as our offending partners think they can just go back to normal. I've made it clear to mine that I won't let him push for unsupervised any time soon, and if he does, social services will ask for my views and I'll say I'm not comfortable. If I was to say I think it's a great idea, social services would rightly think my view of risk is incorrect and that I'm being swayed by him. So I feel quite protected by that.
there will be others on here who have gone back to unsupervised contact but I believe there's quite a prolonged and invasive process to it. Personally I can't see the benefit but that's because I see my husband's behaviour as bewilderingly unacceptable and won't take that chance again.
there will be others on here who have gone back to unsupervised contact but I believe there's quite a prolonged and invasive process to it. Personally I can't see the benefit but that's because I see my husband's behaviour as bewilderingly unacceptable and won't take that chance again.
Thanks for the reply, I'm definitely going to stand my ground I would like to think he would never do anything to the children but there's always that risk in my eyes and I think I would feel uncomfortable at him being able to see them unsupervised and him possibly making me feel bad for not allowing it at end of day I think I have been quite fair in allowing him to still have access to the children and will be getting judged by people on that alone. His case was in media so I'm also scared he is seen in public in the area and anyone shouts any abuse at him with the children there if he was to go out with his parents and the kids somewhere I'm a massive overthinker and worrier so his release fills me with dread, I really hope he finds a job and gets his life on track as I still care about him but as for a relationship with him goes it's a big no.
My person has the same clause, and it covers his own kids too.
He can have access to children if parents AND social services are ok with it.
Best check the same wording is included. But your person seems to be very much misinformed
He can have access to children if parents AND social services are ok with it.
Best check the same wording is included. But your person seems to be very much misinformed
I hope they can come and visit me social services and clarify what is expected now if he is allowed surely it's my decision still whether he can see them unsupervised. Very much in the dark at present and not long until his release just hearing bits off what he has said over the phone.
I agree with Buckets. In my persons SHPO is states that Unsupervised contact has to be agreed but the parents AND Social services.
My partner is allowed unsupervised but its taken 7 years from his sentencing . Up until 1 year ago he wasnt allowed unsupervised with his older kids and our daughter was in care. Once she came home he was allowed unsupervised Just no changing nappy my little one is 2 and half so means only a couple of hours at a time at the minute but once she's out of nappies he could have her for a full day etc
So is possible however I was comfortable with it and it's taken a long time. Not sure they would allow it straight after sentencing
I am pretty sure if you said you felt uncomfortable with it it wouldn't happen. Especially if he has no unsupervised with under 16s on his Shopo I think social would say this includes his own children.
So is possible however I was comfortable with it and it's taken a long time. Not sure they would allow it straight after sentencing
I am pretty sure if you said you felt uncomfortable with it it wouldn't happen. Especially if he has no unsupervised with under 16s on his Shopo I think social would say this includes his own children.
I really do think he is getting his hopes up that they will allow and put pressure on me hopefully social services will say unsupervised will stay in place but basically in the dark right now as to what arrangements they are going state. His offences where online only and I would like to think he would never harm any child but the risk will always be there after the offence he committed. People will be judging me already for allowing him to see them supervised even which a lot of people don't get the fact if punishes the children as they want to still see him, wish I didn't have to see him ever again but have to for the kids sake was a difficult decision to make and I still doubt have I made the right one.
Weirdly my ex doesn't have a clause that he can't have contact with under 18s, just that he can't contact under 18s online, which I don't understand. I am still not happy for him to have any unsupervised contact with our children and at the moment social services are not allowing it. I'm worried that he will go to court and get unsupervised contact and then start demanding more contact. He was a good dad before this but he kept what he was found a secret for years so now I don't trust him at all and don't want him to have more contact.
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I'm not as far along in the journey. I find it hard to think that him not having contact with minors doesn't extend to own children. It's well known that the most dangerous people to women and children are those closest to them. I know my husband was hopeful when he thought he could be assessed for risk and possibly have unsupervised contact with our teenaged child after he was arrested. I dont think that his father is a risk to him but I still shut that down fast. I said I wouldn't consent to the assessment. Our child's school didn’t know about the situation and I didn't want them to. I was afraid it would get out and I'm desperately trying to protect my child's childhood for as long as I can and as much as I can.
I made it clear to the police and to the Social Worker who did the initial assessment of me after his arrest that I wanted the supervision to remain in place. I also made it clear to the Social Worker that they didn't have permission to contact my child's school and put that in writing. Fortunately the Social Worker was supportive and really felt the assessment was more of a formality. Although I've never seen their report despite asking for it several times.
I hope it all goes as well as it can
Take care,
Hx
I'm not as far along in the journey. I find it hard to think that him not having contact with minors doesn't extend to own children. It's well known that the most dangerous people to women and children are those closest to them. I know my husband was hopeful when he thought he could be assessed for risk and possibly have unsupervised contact with our teenaged child after he was arrested. I dont think that his father is a risk to him but I still shut that down fast. I said I wouldn't consent to the assessment. Our child's school didn’t know about the situation and I didn't want them to. I was afraid it would get out and I'm desperately trying to protect my child's childhood for as long as I can and as much as I can.
I made it clear to the police and to the Social Worker who did the initial assessment of me after his arrest that I wanted the supervision to remain in place. I also made it clear to the Social Worker that they didn't have permission to contact my child's school and put that in writing. Fortunately the Social Worker was supportive and really felt the assessment was more of a formality. Although I've never seen their report despite asking for it several times.
I hope it all goes as well as it can
Take care,
Hx
Hi and yes contact can go from supervised to non supervised so my husband at the moment have supervised and when my son turns 7 in March it will go to unsupervised as that's what Lucy faithfull said as long as he doesn't to anything new so it all depends on the assments .