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Hi everyone
We are 17 months since the knock and my partner was released under investigation with no conditions.
He was caught by a vigilante group not the police.
I have looked at the CPS website to see what evidence the police need but cannot fathom it out!
i just wondered if there is anyone on here who knows what evidence they need for a charge please? or if anyone has been caught by a vigilante group and what happened?
He was comminicating with the vigilante group, he didn't look at any images he says, but arranged a meeting knowing it was a minor.
He did it all from a mobile phone, a 2nd payg phone he got himself, tho the police never got that phone.
our solicitor just says it is a grey area and there is no definite answer.
Mabel x x
We are 17 months since the knock and my partner was released under investigation with no conditions.
He was caught by a vigilante group not the police.
I have looked at the CPS website to see what evidence the police need but cannot fathom it out!
i just wondered if there is anyone on here who knows what evidence they need for a charge please? or if anyone has been caught by a vigilante group and what happened?
He was comminicating with the vigilante group, he didn't look at any images he says, but arranged a meeting knowing it was a minor.
He did it all from a mobile phone, a 2nd payg phone he got himself, tho the police never got that phone.
our solicitor just says it is a grey area and there is no definite answer.
Mabel x x
I'm guessing the police already have some evidence from the group. They will want texts, emails, conversation logs, and proof it was him. He could be charged under criminal attempts, so attempting to have a sexual communication and/or meet a minor. Does his solicitor know what evidence the police have? Sadly my partner communicated with a police officer, he could not have known they were underage to start but as soon as an age was mentioned the conversation should have stopped. There was nothing else just that one chat but once is enough! It's taking a long time for the police to sort his case, is that waiting on forensics for the devices.
Hi Maria
Thank you for your reply.
Well I'm not sure what evidence the solicitor has at the moment, I guess it is chat logs from the vigilante group.
I forgot to mention that as he was arrested in a town a long way from where we live there are 2 police forces involved. One was the arresting force and one has got our devices.
Yes I am guessing we are waiting for the devices to be checked, he says there is nothing on any devices, it was all done on this phone.
I just wondered is your partners investigation complete? Did it go to court?
The waiting is so hard but also at least he's not in prison!
thanks so much again Maria
Mabel x x
Thank you for your reply.
Well I'm not sure what evidence the solicitor has at the moment, I guess it is chat logs from the vigilante group.
I forgot to mention that as he was arrested in a town a long way from where we live there are 2 police forces involved. One was the arresting force and one has got our devices.
Yes I am guessing we are waiting for the devices to be checked, he says there is nothing on any devices, it was all done on this phone.
I just wondered is your partners investigation complete? Did it go to court?
The waiting is so hard but also at least he's not in prison!
thanks so much again Maria
Mabel x x
Yes it's all done for my partner. He didn't have to wait that long for court. He was charged with attempting to commit a communication offence, got suspended sentence, 5 years sor and shpo to do with internet monitoring. There was only the one conversation. Worst year of my life but we are moving on from it now, we have been very lucky with the support we have had. Until it happens to you, you have no idea about these type of offences. Some of these men get caught up in an online world and addiction, I would never imagined it would happen to my partner but it did. I hope you hear something soon, the waiting is awful and so stressful. I still come on the forum sometimes because I remember that feeling of dispear and being totally lost in this awful situation and it helps to hear that you can get through it.
Hi again Maria
Thanks for you reply.
It is so nice to read from someone who has survived this nightmare and come out the other side.
Sending you best wishes
Mabel x x
Thanks for you reply.
It is so nice to read from someone who has survived this nightmare and come out the other side.
Sending you best wishes
Mabel x x
Hi Maria,
it so helps to know that you can come through it, one day.
still waiting to know what’s going to happen, every hour I don’t think about it is a win.
it so helps to know that you can come through it, one day.
still waiting to know what’s going to happen, every hour I don’t think about it is a win.
Hi Mabel
17 months seems like an extraordinary amount of time. It sounds like he is bottom of the queue and if two police forces are involved it sounds like an administrative nightmare. If they are only looking at his phone and he didn’t communicate from that phone it is difficult to imagine how they are going to get enough evidence to be able to charge him and prove it was him on the other end of those chats.
17 months seems like an extraordinary amount of time. It sounds like he is bottom of the queue and if two police forces are involved it sounds like an administrative nightmare. If they are only looking at his phone and he didn’t communicate from that phone it is difficult to imagine how they are going to get enough evidence to be able to charge him and prove it was him on the other end of those chats.
Hi Big Sigh
Thanks very much for your reply.
It is a bit of a unique situation we are in, yes he must be at the bottom of the pile!
But I think the fact he was there at the meeting place, where he was met by the vigilante group must be not a good thing! Sorry I should have put that in my first post????
It is so unclear tho, I guess we I'll have to wait, no choice!
I was so pleased to read your husbands case was NFA, what a relief for you tho it doesn't take away all the stress you have had over it.
Thanks again
Mabel x x x
Thanks very much for your reply.
It is a bit of a unique situation we are in, yes he must be at the bottom of the pile!
But I think the fact he was there at the meeting place, where he was met by the vigilante group must be not a good thing! Sorry I should have put that in my first post????
It is so unclear tho, I guess we I'll have to wait, no choice!
I was so pleased to read your husbands case was NFA, what a relief for you tho it doesn't take away all the stress you have had over it.
Thanks again
Mabel x x x
Hi Mabel
thanks, yes glad it’s over. Wish it was for you too.
Did your husband admit anything when interviewed by police?
thanks, yes glad it’s over. Wish it was for you too.
Did your husband admit anything when interviewed by police?
Hi again Big Sigh
Thanks for your reply.
How are you getting on since the NFA? I hope life is starting to settle down now for you.
Well he apparently just said 'no comment' at the police interview after he was arrested, as he was advised by the duty solicitor there. I suppose he will be called in to give another statement at some point.
The waiting is just awful but we can't do anything else but carry on.
Thanks again
Mabel x x
Thanks for your reply.
How are you getting on since the NFA? I hope life is starting to settle down now for you.
Well he apparently just said 'no comment' at the police interview after he was arrested, as he was advised by the duty solicitor there. I suppose he will be called in to give another statement at some point.
The waiting is just awful but we can't do anything else but carry on.
Thanks again
Mabel x x
Hi Mabel
well at least he had the good sense to have a solicitor present - guilty or not, it is really important to have good legal representation.
yes, the waiting is awful. Not sure I have seen anyone else who has waited so long with no contact from police. Have they done a welfare call at all? Some police forces do just to make sure the accused is ok - I think the higher rate of suicides in this group of men mean they have a duty of care towards them.
cant remember if you have kids?
well at least he had the good sense to have a solicitor present - guilty or not, it is really important to have good legal representation.
yes, the waiting is awful. Not sure I have seen anyone else who has waited so long with no contact from police. Have they done a welfare call at all? Some police forces do just to make sure the accused is ok - I think the higher rate of suicides in this group of men mean they have a duty of care towards them.
cant remember if you have kids?
Hi again Big Sigh
How are you?
No we have not heard anything from the police, no welfare checks or anything!
I think the complication is we live in Essex so Essex police have our devices to check but he was arrested in Tyne & Wear so they are the arresting police force who I think may be the ones to change him but it seems not clear!
Our solicitor just says it's a 'grey area!' and we have to wait and see. His approach is do not comtact the police because in his experience it does not hurry them up and just annoys!
I know it's been in the news this week about a vigilante group who got the wrong couple! Unbelievable!
Thanks for your reply
Mabel x x x
How are you?
No we have not heard anything from the police, no welfare checks or anything!
I think the complication is we live in Essex so Essex police have our devices to check but he was arrested in Tyne & Wear so they are the arresting police force who I think may be the ones to change him but it seems not clear!
Our solicitor just says it's a 'grey area!' and we have to wait and see. His approach is do not comtact the police because in his experience it does not hurry them up and just annoys!
I know it's been in the news this week about a vigilante group who got the wrong couple! Unbelievable!
Thanks for your reply
Mabel x x x